"Jagvar" (Jagvar)
08/18/2016 at 14:26 • Filed to: None
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"Jagvar" (Jagvar)
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I feel fine, then. I think I’ll go for a walk.
Arrivederci
> Jagvar
08/18/2016 at 14:30 |
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Looks that way. I think Univision wants to keep everything else going, at least in the near term. Hopefully they’ll jettison Jezebel, or at least their writers.
PatBateman
> Jagvar
08/18/2016 at 14:31 |
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I'm pretty sure that if Univision is shutting down Gawker, they may be done with Kinja as well. And if Kinja is done...
Ash78, voting early and often
> Arrivederci
08/18/2016 at 14:31 |
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Will these be televised? Preferably on a special edition of
Sabado Gigante?
I choose the trebuchet!
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Ash78, voting early and often
> PatBateman
08/18/2016 at 14:32 |
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...there will be much rejoicing. Assuming we roll back to the old system.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> Jagvar
08/18/2016 at 14:32 |
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It is a beautiful day. Hopefully those clouds keep south of here...
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> PatBateman
08/18/2016 at 14:34 |
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Just Gawker.com, not Gawker Media.
No point in buying it (and its readers) to shutter it all.
jimz
> Arrivederci
08/18/2016 at 14:51 |
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I don’t get the hate for Jezebel. you don’t have to go there, you know.
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PatBateman
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/18/2016 at 14:55 |
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Ah,you’re right. But my hypothesis that Univision would drop Kinja remains. Maybe they might move to a Facebook-based comments section, which is what Fusion.net (owned by Univision Communications) uses. There is almost zero incentive for the new owners to rely on Kinja software after this purchase (as opposed to Nick Denton owning the separate company that licenses Kinja out to GM at this time).
If you’re Univision, why would you pay someone royalties for commenting software? We know that it helps drive loyal readership, but the new owners might not care.
LongbowMkII
> Jagvar
08/18/2016 at 14:56 |
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Fair considering they banned me for one reason or another.
Gamecat235
> PatBateman
08/18/2016 at 15:02 |
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Is (was) Kinja owned by Gawker Media? If so, it’s presumably now the property of Univision. I was always slightly confused as to whether there was any legal separation between the two.
Funktheduck
> LongbowMkII
08/18/2016 at 15:03 |
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I was never allowed in. Permanent grey
duurtlang
> jimz
08/18/2016 at 15:07 |
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Hell, I don’t even get the hate for Gawker. Not that I like everything they write, but the pure hatred is something I don’t get.
loki03xlh
> Funktheduck
08/18/2016 at 15:13 |
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I’ve never been un-greyed there. I quit making comments because I quit caring after a while. Jalop and Oppo is all that really matters. Gizmodo is cool too.
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jimz
> duurtlang
08/18/2016 at 15:19 |
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but I dislike gossipy bullshit in general. Plus they’ve done some incredibly petty things to people who didn’t deserve anything (e.g. outing that Conde Nast exec.) It’s one thing to go after people who try to shape public policy in a way that runs counter to their own personal conduct, and completely another to try to trash people’s lives because they work for a competitor. I guess it has something to do with Denton himself; there seems to be a nasty side of British culture which says that the minute someone gets a bit of fame or notability, the media has to try to destroy them.
the other thing I dislike about Gawker is the sheer arrogance of assholes like Hamilton Nolan and Brendan O’Connor. They honestly seem to think it’s their place to tell us all how to live. Y’know, because they write for a blog.
MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> Jagvar
08/18/2016 at 15:27 |
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No worries:
Scimitar7
> jimz
08/18/2016 at 15:35 |
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“the sheer arrogance of assholes like Hamilton Nolan and Brendan O’Connor. They honestly seem to think it’s their place to tell us all how to live. Y’know, because they write for a blog.”
This is the sole reason I quit that site. I hope & pray HamNo gets placed as FAAAAAAAAAAR away from Jalopnik as possible.
jkm7680
> Gamecat235
08/18/2016 at 15:37 |
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Exactly what I was wondering.
Kinja (as we know) is just the publishing platform that is used by Gawker Media, that Nick Denton guy from Gawker and someone else created it. However, but it’s still kinda unclear if Kinja was split apart from Gawker Media at some point.
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PatBateman
> Gamecat235
08/18/2016 at 15:40 |
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I am 95% certain that Kinja is a separate entity from Gawker Media.
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Funktheduck
> loki03xlh
08/18/2016 at 15:40 |
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The secret to getting let in is making super liberal comments and making death threats to anything not super left. As a moderate I was never accepted because I wasn't extreme enough.
BritishLeyland
> Jagvar
08/18/2016 at 15:50 |
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Mmm...Toast
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loki03xlh
> Funktheduck
08/18/2016 at 16:09 |
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I’m a pretty liberal guy, but don’t touch my fucking guns, or my chopper, or my hot rod. Wait, maybe I’m libertarian and not liberal???
Anyways, fuck gawker. Good riddance.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> PatBateman
08/18/2016 at 16:14 |
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I can’t imagine they would. Fusion probably only used Facebook because they didn’t have a better solution. User base on your own, native platform (so you can track them and better target to advertisers) is very valuable. This is why Facebook is so powerful and rich. Why would Univision give up its Kinja “captives” to Facebook. Seems that more likely Fusion.net would become a Kinja-based property.
Now if the sale didn’t include Kinja KFT as you seem to allude to, it’s a totally different story...
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> Gamecat235
08/18/2016 at 16:16 |
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Kinja KFT filed for bankruptcy on June 12th - not sure if it was part of the sale or not, but you’d have to assume it was. What worth do Gizmodo, Lifehacker, Jalopnik, etc. have without the platform they’re all built on?
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> PatBateman
08/18/2016 at 16:17 |
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My replay to Gamecat: Kinja KFT filed for bankruptcy on June 12th - not sure if it was part of the sale or not, but you’d have to assume it was. What worth do Gizmodo, Lifehacker, Jalopnik, etc. have without the platform they’re all built on?
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PatBateman
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/18/2016 at 16:25 |
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From what I’ve found, Kinja is owned by Blogwire Hungary, which is owned by the CAYMAN ISLANDS-based Gawker Media Group Inc. The US-based Gawker Media LLC is owned by the Cayman Islands holding group.
So, technically, Gawker Media LLC and Blogwire are separate entities with the same Caymanian owner (who is, ultimately, Denton). I don’t think that the Cayman Islands holding company is the one that filed bankruptcy, just the US-based Gawker Media subsidiary. Thus, Kinja very well might not be part of the assets taken by Univision.
Ain’t international business ownership architecture fun?
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> PatBateman
08/18/2016 at 16:31 |
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See my other response about the Gawker Media properties being worth very little without the platform that they’re all based on. Seems like it would have to be part of the sale.
Bad Idea Hat
> jimz
08/18/2016 at 17:22 |
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Some of their writing is just a joke, and some of their FP commenters are headcases.
Now, the people on their version of Oppo are fine. I’ve seen a number of occasions where there was even collecting facepalming over what was written on their FP.
In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
> LongbowMkII
08/19/2016 at 11:01 |
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I’m ungreyed on Oppo and an author here, ungryed on Gawker AND Jezebel, BU I WAS NEVER UNGREYED ON JALOPNIK:’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’(
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jimz
> Bad Idea Hat
08/19/2016 at 15:41 |
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I guess my point is that it’s a site by women, for women. I know it’s not for me, and I don’t care about probably 95% of what they publish, so I just- you know- don’t go there.
although the Deadspin-Jezebel switch on April 1 was entertaining.